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copyright © 1999, by Karyn Greenstreet. All rights reserved.
KG: Let's start at the very beginning. Please tell us about your background, especially about your childhood. I found it interesting. I was reading in your book about the different things that you had done in your childhood and the things that you knew when you were young. WR: Well, I was an only child, so of course I had imaginary friends. And I had a paternal grandmother who was a seer...who "just knew." She saw lots of "imaginary" things...angels, fairies dancing in the rain, people who had been dead a long time. This never seemed strange to me because of my mother always told me that my grandmother "Just Knew." I would ask, "How does she know?" And my mother reply, "She just knows." I was fascinated with her knowing. I also had a couple of aunts, their daughters, who were always seeing ghosts. In hindsight, my both of parents gave me a lot of support for using my imagination. I suppose unusual things happened, but no one ever told me they were strange, or out of the ordinary. A few years ago I paid a visit to the home where I grew up. I stood in our front yard and remembered that when I was 7 or 8 years old my neighbor's child, a little boy who was a toddler, was missing. My memory was that I stood in my front yard, looked down the hill, and saw him sitting on a box in a lily pool. I ran across the street and down the hill. Sure enough, he was sitting on the box, dangling his feet in the water, looking at the goldfish. But when I went back to visit, I realized that what I remembered couldn't have happened. We lived in the woods. The lily pool - where I saw him sitting - was a good quarter of a mile away. I couldn't see it from our yard. And, of course, I always saw the spirits...or ghosts, of animals. Sometimes, my mother would say that I simply saw animal spirits because they had been around so long before they died. KG: Because you expected them to be there? WR: Yes, because I expected them to be there. Of course, she stopped telling me that when I saw the ghost of her mother, sitting in a rocking chair. KG: You were fortunate that your parents, at least, didn't tell you that you were wrong. That you weren't really seeing or feeling what you were seeing and feeling. WR: I wish that my teachers had been as supportive as my parents . When I was in elementary school, I always knew the answers to math problems. I was constantly accused of cheating because I would blurt out the answer, but not know how to work the problem. Or I was accused of ease dropping because I would know something I wasn't supposed to. I think about how often that must happen. You know the answers for whatever reason, but don't have a clue how to work the problem. KG: I can remember doing that on multiple choice tests - knowing which answer was the right answer, but not being able to tell them why I knew that. Maybe it was because I had heard them tell me that answer six months earlier or maybe it was just because I "just knew." I was fortunate that they just thought I was smart! Sometimes you get lucky. I had real knowledge, not that kind of stuff they try to push into your brain in college. I thought it was really interesting, when I read that you used to add to the end of your prayers, "And, please let me stop seeing ghosts." WR: (LOL) I always tacked that on. And I still have to have the closet doors shut. I won't go to bed with them open. Even though I said, "I don't want to see ghosts," I've started to see ghosts again, in person, and not just feel them. I had to ask myself, "What was I afraid of?" in order to bring them back so that I could actually see them. KG: Have things changed for you that you are more willing to be able to see them now than you have in the past? WR: I think so. To this day, I regret sending a being (...ghost?) away that appeared in my kitchen. I was washing dishes, looking out the window watching my cat, on a sunny, Sunday afternoon. A being started taking form in front of my refrigerator. My sense was that it was eight feet tall with a long gray robe. A chill ran through my body as I looked at it and said, "Not now." It vanished. After that instance, I started asking to see ghosts again. And this isn't quite the same, but just last week I saw my husband, who is alive and well, put something into the mailbox as I was driving down the road. I raced to catch up with him, only to discover that he wasn't on the road and he didn't put anything in the mailbox. He was sitting in the study in his jeans. I had seen him, maybe 70 feet in front of me, wearing his running clothes. I don't know what that was about. A slip through time and space perhaps. KG: Had he been thinking about it? WR: That's what I think....that he was thinking about mailing something. The idea was so strong he projected his image out to the mailbox and I happened to see it. This is one of those interesting things that I'll probably never know about. KG: The real question is, was there something in the mailbox? WR: You know, I didn't look. A letter from another world maybe? KG: Tell me about your experiences with the dolphins.
WR: I became involved with dolphins because of Michael, my
husband, who is a real water person. I wouldn't say that I was drawn to them more than any
other animal. (I'm a real animal lover.) However, on my very first dolphin swim I had an
remarkable experience. I was swimming with two dolphins....Annessa and Aleta. They ignored
the commands of the trainer and pulled me out into the Gulf (quite a long distance) on a
dorsal pull. In fact, the trainer yelled, "What are you doing, taking her to
Cuba?" KG: It is amazing if you open yourself up, what can teach you. WR: It is astounding. When people say that you have to speak to dolphins sentence by sentence, I think it's only because the dolphin slows their communication for the human. My experience is that a dolphin gives you their whole experience at once, in a thought. KG: It's very common in any telepathy that when people get a telepathic experience, it is very much a package. They have an instant knowing of things. Perhaps they see pictures or hear words, but it all ties together in a nice little bundle. I think we are often, even as humans, sending out these little packets. WR: I think so too. For whatever reason, we usually break our information down. KG: Right. I have a friend, who has a very young daughter and whenever she even thinks about cleaning, her daughter can be anywhere in the house and she will bring her a broom. A child so young constructing sentences is not something that is ingrained in them at this point. She sees cleaning and she says "broom" and that is it. I think that if we tune into that from our animals or from our mates or from our children, we would be so much better off. I loved in your book how you wrote a lot of question and answer - common questions that
people have. What are some of the most common questions that you seem to run across about
people when they are trying to discover their intuition? KG: You do a lot with dreaming and intuition, don't you? WR: I do. I work in what is called "directive imagery," which is not exactly a guided imagery, but you allow the person to relax and then they create their own dream. Because it is a directive state, they come back and we can process it. I find that there is so much information there available to the person. KG: Do you do individual work with people? Are you working with groups or groups of students? WR: I do both. My individual clients tend to be people who are working to develop their own intuition. I have them relax on a bed, and use a mixer board to play music over their headset while I talk to them. This is the way I learned and it is the way I teach. I simply get them to see what is going on in their mind and to notice how their bodies feel. We sort out the chatter of their scripts: mother, brother, father, whatever voices they have, to help them get to the intuitive part of themselves. KG: Do you find that they know when they hit that part, it is so clear to them or do they still have doubts? WR: They know. They usually recognize the felt sense. I believe that when people are with other intuitives or psychics, there is a resonance. A similar event happens when you are with, or in close proximity, to dolphins. Dolphin's brain-waves are lower alpha. Humans immediately synchronize to lower alpha as well. I think that happens with people who work in the field of intuition and physics. Other people come into that energy, or vibration, shift into a lower alpha, and hit that place of knowing what intuition is. It is very rarely that I have worked with someone and they just didn't get anything. KG: I had read in your book that when you first got started, you had done a lot of work with the folks at the Monroe Institute. WR: I was in their second group of explorers. It was great. I was a research subject so literally, every weekend for about three years, I was in a lab. For 3 to 4 hours I would have monitors asking me questions or giving me remote-viewing targets. After the session ended, I would be given feedback in a debriefing. It was an incredible graduate school. Then, of course, I was also one of their trainers. KG: You taught there at the Monroe Institute or you traveled and trained? WR: Both. I taught their program for them at Monroe and then my husband and I took the Monroe program to Australia. KG: That is exciting. You seem to be quite a traveler for someone who wants to hide in the woods. WR: When we are traveling, you can still disappear. Right now our traveling of choice would be off on a sailboat somewhere. You are not likely to have a lot of people knocking on the door. KG: That is true. I also read about your experiences in Glastonbury. Actually, tell us how it started with the flow of wanting to go to Peru and that not happening. WR: When Michael and I first got together, we were footloose and fancy free. We wanted to go to Peru and we wanted to go to Machu Picchu. We had just returned from Australia. We told our travel agent (six months in advance) the dates that we wanted to be traveling and where we wanted to go. Michael and I would then take off, doing our own thing, expecting her to put the trip together for us. Every once and a while we would call her and she would have done nothing for our trip. About three weeks before our desired departure date Michael started calling her every day. Finally, he just took it out of her hands and he said he would do it himself. He literally spent the better part of one day, because all of the flights were booked, but he managed to find us two tickets to Peru. As we were having all this difficulty getting the trip organized, he asked me why I wasn't manifesting it? I pulled my hedging routine. I was also curious as to why things weren't working out. I called up the state department. Their message was, "Don't go to Peru." Michael came back with, "What about your white light? We will be protected. We will wrap ourselves in your white light. We will be fine." Then we got a second message that was, "don't go to Peru." One of our local newspapers interviewed a man who was always taking groups to Peru. I read the article and tossed it to aside. I didn't even show it to Michael but mentioned it in passing. He said, "I want to read it. I want to call the guy." As soon as he got on the phone the guy says, "Do you speak Spanish?" "No." Then he said, "The last time I was there, I was face to face with the Shinning Light (the rebels). They shoved a machine-gun in my face." He told us he thought the only thing that had saved him was that he could speak Spanish. He talked his way out a very dangerous situation. Basically he was saying, "Don't go. " In the same breath, he said to Michael, "Have you ever been to Glastonbury?" Michael said no. He proceeded to tell Michael about Glastonbury, England. Michael no sooner had hung up the phone when it rang. It was a friend of mine in Washington. She just returned from Glastonbury and she was calling to tell us that we really needed to go to Glastonbury. We said, "Okay (Spooks). We hear you." KG: Up until that time though, do you think it was your will to go to Peru that made you not really pay attention to the messages telling you to not go? WR: Yes, we were headstrong, we wanted to go, we thought we could make it work. We ignored the signs...the state department, the local man who said don't go, and the fact it was hard, if not almost impossible, to get tickets. KG: Plus, your travel agent was completely putting it off, for whatever reason. WR: For whatever reason. Why she didn't tell us? I don't know what was going on, but the fact was we weren't meant to go to Peru, at least not at that time. As for Glastonbury... I had frequent flyer miles, I managed to get them within two weeks, and I applied them to tickets for England. In less than two weeks we were on our way to Glastonbury when for the previous six months we had tried to make plans for Peru...to no avail. To me, this type of occurrence is what we strive for. That's really what intuition is all about...being in the flow. I think we often overlook that or we forget that there is a flow there. It's part of our intuitive information. At the time we wanted to go to Peru we had been together less than a year. We were still learning about flow as a couple. Now we are much more in tune together. If we are blocked the first thing we will ask is, "What is not flowing here?" KG: What you are saying is that sometimes your intuition can get some very concrete, physical nudges in the real world. It is not that it is all internal and you are going to hear a voice in head, but sometimes it is your travel agent who is not doing the job. WR: Exactly. I believe that everything is feedback. The entire universe is feedback. We just need to tune in to that. It may be somebody handing us a book and it happens to be the book that we are looking for. Or maybe turning on the radio and the song playing has a message that we need to hear at that moment. KG: When people want to first learn about this, I know that some of the way you learned was through the Monroe Institute, but, when you first teach people, do you start out with the guided visualization and that path? Or are there other paths that people seem to take that work well for them when they are first starting out? WR: I think any path is just a path. As long as it is a path with heart (awareness) it will work. I happen to use a lot of visualization and a lot of imagery because that works for me. I was once a music major and I like to use music to aid in relaxation and imagery. But then, another one of my paths is with nature, especially our finned friends. There is something mystical about being with a dolphin. You have to be fully in the moment. You can't be somewhere else. If you are (mentally somewhere else), the dolphin is not going to be with you. They leave. They know your mind is not with them. I think that it is a matter of exploring and seeing what feels right. Gardening, walking, running. There are so many different ways of finding your intuitive voice.
WR: During a remote-viewing session at Monroe, I had a cartoon character show up in my mind that turned out to be Yosemite Sam. The target was probably Yosemite, (I never found out) but I didn't know cartoon characters at the time. I called him Sam the Pirate. Sam proceeded to tell me about the body of the monitor, and it turned out that he was accurate. That was how I got started doing medical intuitive readings. I just knew about people's bodies. I would read them like a CAT scan. All along, my belief was that I didn't need to know this information. People who were in the field - doctor's, nurses, and health-care practitioners - could easily learn this and it could be taught to them. That has been my focus - more to teach them than to do it myself. I taught second year medical students at Brown University to use intuition to diagnose their patients. KG: How easy or how hard is it to teach a student of medicine how to open up to their intuition?
WR: At Brown, our premise was that medicine is a discipline where you open the head and pour in the information. We simply poured in the information that intuition was an essential part of the physical assessment. It was not only possible, it was necessary. This approach worked. We presented it in such a way, then showed them how. The faculty I worked with were good, solid faculty members. The students were incredible. In the end, we not only had students, but doctors, who came to the class. The course just grew and grew. After several years I moved on to other areas. But recently, the whole medical thing is resurfacing. Perhaps it is time. Natural Health Magazine featured me in their October issue. Since I love to talk about medical intuition and I love to teach it, my goal is to use the publicity to get into hospitals and health care facilities. To help them remember this part of themselves. KG: It is on very much a global scale. It is more empowering and more enlightening to the human race if you could teach people to do it for themselves instead of doing it for them. I have stopped doing readings for that very reason. I would rather teach them how to do it themselves. WR: Actually, I do the same thing with teaching intuition. If people really need to find out what is going on with their body, I work with them in my studio. We put on the headset and together we go through their bodies. I have been very pleased with the results of working that way. KG: You said you moved on to other areas. What topics are interesting to you now? I know that we go through fazes of things. What are you working on now and what seems to be your path that you are working with? WR: I just finished a novel after a lot of rewriting. The working title is Kezar, but that may change. It is about what you and I are talking about today. Based in truth, it's a mystery, but really a modern day book of shadows. In fact, the protagonist, at one point, teaches a woman to diagnose bodies....step by step. I am really excited about this right now. Completing the novel, putting all I know about magic, intuition, and getting it out to the public. There are many, wonderful, wonderful books on intuition, as you know. I have written my little book on intuition, so now let's put it in a story form. Maybe those people who wouldn't pick up a book on intuition would pick up a mystery. KG: I have to laugh because I was reading your book about how when you moved to Maine all the mystery writers lived there. Then you should come out to write a mystery and I just thought, "Oh that is interesting." WR: I love Nancy Drew. I have always been a reader of mysteries. When I was a child, I thought all the writers lived in Maine, lived in the woods, and wrote...did their thing. I have been living that life for the last three years. KG: Good for you. Congratulations. Then you are going to go disappear somewhere for a while, right? Take a vacation? WR: Then we will see what is next. KG: Are you still traveling and doing all of that teaching or have you backed away from that? WR: I have backed away from that to write this novel. The recent magazine article has created more responses than I ever imagined. For right now, Michael and I are sorting out how to reply to all the calls, emails, mail. I will see. Perhaps my future direction is different from what I thought it would be. I like to teach. I know that I don't want to be running from place to place. I spent a short part of my life where I was on a plane coming in at 11 at night and heading out at 7 in the morning. That is not my idea of happiness, or balance. Michael and I love to travel and we love to work with groups. We'll see how it all plays out. KG: That is great. I also have your other book here, your Remembering book, which I think is so lovely. It really is just, I use the word charming, not as a put down, but I just mean it is absolutely wonderful - the sayings and the teachings. You open it up and pick a page, using your intuition, and it is just lovely to just have reminders. WR: That came out of doing a nine-day sit in a Buddhist Monastery. I got to thinking (which you are not supposed to do) and watching the thoughts that floated across my mind.. Remembering showed up. I originally wanted to call it "Imagine", but it was too much to even try to use that title since John Lennon's estate has the first claim on imagine.. I think learning is remembering, we remember what we already know. KG: When you read a quote from somebody and it resonates as you and you know it is the truth, it comes from deep inside of you, it is not intellectually that you think - yes, this is true - you just know. You are reminded that from whenever, this is the way life is. That is fantastic. So, do you feel that you are a writer? Is there another book in there lurking? Are you done now? WR: Actually, there are three. The novel I just completed was the second in a series. I've already started number one. KG: Another novel, you mean? WR: A novel, again, because I personally like fiction and I know fiction writers. There is truth in what we call fiction, and right now, that is the way that I, personally, want to tell my stories. There is so much truth in this first novel, I may have to change some things around. At the beginning I should say, "If this sounds like you, you shouldn't be surprised." But I probably won't do that. KG: I think the whole field of "new age fiction" and conscious living fiction, Celestine Prophecy, and Marion Zimmer Bradley - it's fiction, but there is enough in there where people go, "Wow, that is really fantastic." I have read so many books - mysteries, romances, action/adventure - that have this information in it that I really believe this is a huge way of people getting the ideas out there in a way that people can understand and comprehend. It is a kind of teaching, but through story telling. WR: That is right. I actually think that story telling is alive and well and coming back. You have said it well. KG: Are there any final thoughts or topics that you wanted to explore? WR: I can't think of any right now. We've talked about the
book and we have talked about the medical intuition and my desire to teach or talk about
it. I feel as if we have talked about everything. I will talk to you in a year or so when
Kezar,
(or whatever it's title) is out. WR: Yes, unfortunately. If we are lucky, we will see it a year from now. KG: I will be looking for it. Don't let them change the name. KG: How can people contact you? WR: I have a website: http://www.winterrobinson.com. I can be emailed at winter@winterrobinson.com. KG: Great. That is wonderful. Folks that want to contact you who don't have the Internet, maybe a friend prints a page off for them or something, is there a phone number where people can reach you? WR: 207-929-6960. KG: When you do workshops, do you publicize them on the web? Maybe a medical intuition workshop or maybe a story telling workshop, can they find that out on the web? WR: They can find that out on the webpage. I try to keep it updated with my schedules and those types of things, as well as any recent thoughts. I try to change it every month. I have a little newsletter that comes out bimonthly. A lot of that is also on the webpage, but I also mail that out. It has schedules and thoughts and lets people know whatever I am in to, from recipes to a famous quote. KG: Is that newsletter paper or email or both? WR: Both. So far there is no charge for it, but as long as I
can send out email, it is fine. I will have to see what happens this fall. If it gets to
the point where I have to at least pay for postage and paper, I may have to ask for
postage. KG: And we will let everyone know when that comes on line. WR: Absolutely. KG: Thank you again for your time. WR: Thank you.
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